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		<title>Comcast Delivery Tips</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Abuse Desk Stories]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple days ago, Comcast sent an email asking for feedback about their feedback loop. Rare to see an ISP genuinely asking email senders what they think. Anyway, this meant I got to speak with one of their senior spam analysts on the phone today. Now I&#8217;ve spoken with a lot of ISPs, and I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://postmaster.comcast.net"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/comcastic.png" rel="facebox" alt="" width="191" height="67" /></a>A couple days ago, Comcast sent an email asking for feedback about their <a href="http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3623337">feedback loop</a>. Rare to see an ISP genuinely asking email senders what they think. Anyway, this meant I got to speak with one of their senior spam analysts on the phone today. Now I&#8217;ve spoken with a lot of ISPs, and I can tell you this was unlike any other conversation I&#8217;ve ever had. Comcast was human. Friendly, even. It was refreshingly <em>Comcastic</em>.</p>
<p>He gave me some tips that I could pass on to our readers. So here you go:</p>
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<li>Comcast really, really hates it when you send to an old list (with lots of undeliverable email addresses). If you&#8217;ve got too many emails on your list that no longer exist, Comcast will block your IP address. This is a very strong argument for cleaning old, inactive members from your lists. Yes, I know it feels safer to keep old members on the list, because the number of recipients looks so much bigger. Yes, I know your boss keeps telling you not to clean your list, because they don&#8217;t want to lose any prospects. But those bad addresses are just holding back your overall deliverability and keeping the <strong><em>good</em></strong> addresses on your list from getting your message. Yes, I have numbers to prove it. In a later post.</li>
<li>Comcast doesn&#8217;t like it if you send too many emails all at once to them (this one&#8217;s kind of a no-brainer). Here&#8217;s what makes them different: t<a title="Comcast rate limiting chart" href="http://help.comcast.net/content/faq/RL001" target="_blank">hey&#8217;ll actually TELL you how many you&#8217;re allowed to send at once</a>.</li>
<li>As you can see from <a title="Comcast Rate limiting chart" href="http://help.comcast.net/content/faq/RL001" target="_blank">this chart</a>, the rate of emails you&#8217;re allowed to send to Comcast at once depends on your IP&#8217;s &#8220;reputation.&#8221;</li>
<li>Your IP reputation is based on at least two factors: <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/authentication">Authentication</a> (a technology standard that&#8217;s used to prove an email is not a forgery), and the IP&#8217;s &#8220;<a title="ReturnPath Senderscore" href="https://www.senderscore.org/" target="_blank">Sender Score</a>&#8221; (Your IP&#8217;s Sender Score is kind of like a credit rating, and it&#8217;s the folks at <a href="https://www.senderscore.org/" target="_blank">ReturnPath</a> who issue the score). <em>MailChimp customers &#8211; Authentication is free with every MailChimp account, and through our relationship with ReturnPath we monitor our senderscore closely.</em></li>
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<p>For those of you familiar with ISPs and abuse desks in general, none of this is all that new. The interesting stuff is how forthcoming and helpful Comcast is with their error codes and rate limiting charts. Overall, their new Postmaster site is one of the best I&#8217;ve ever seen (look at all the handy RSS feeds):</p>
<p><a title="Comcast Postmaster Site" href="http://postmaster.comcast.net/" target="_blank">http://postmaster.comcast.net/</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re new to all this, and wonder how this applies to you:</p>
<ul>
<li>Don&#8217;t send to old email addresses. You&#8217;ll get yourself (and other innocent senders) blocked.</li>
<li>At some ISPs, old email addresses get turned into spam traps. You send an email to a spamtrap, and you are instantly blocked. We had a case of a MailChimp user who sent to a 10-yr old email list (totally opt-in, and the guy luckily had IP/timestamps on all subscribers) and one of the addresses had been turned into a spam trap. The impact on his deliverability from a spamtrap hit was instantaneous and dramatic. Keeping his proof of opt-in for so long saved his behind.</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re sending your emails from an ESP (like MailChimp, Constant Contact, etc) that has shared IP ranges, then one bad apple can truly spoil the whole IP range. So it&#8217;s important to go with an ESP that closely monitors their deliverability, and punishes bad senders (it&#8217;s for the greater good). Quality over quantity.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t export your entire email address book and assume they all want to receive email newsletters from you. <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/">Address book dumps </a>are full of old email addresses, and are one of the most common reasons I see senders get blocked. <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/how-tradeshow-email-lists-can-get-you-blacklisted/">Other reasons</a> include: Fish bowls, sharing lists, and buying lists.</li>
<li>If you have an old list of people who opted-in to receive emails from you, but you haven&#8217;t sent them an email in a really long time (or ever), then you need to delete any emails older than 1yr, <em><strong>then</strong></em> send the remaining subscribers a &#8220;remember me?&#8221; welcome email. <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/reclaim-old-customer-emails-example/">Here&#8217;s a good example</a>.</li>
<li>If you send emails on a regular basis, and you think your system is cleaning the list for you, you still might want to <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/3-quick-email-list-segmentation-examples/">segment your list by actives vs. inactives.</a></li>
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<p>Comcast isn&#8217;t the only ISP that hates it when you send to old/dead lists.  <a title="AOL Postmaster - don't send to old email addresses" href="http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2008/10/24/ip-reputation-the-whitelist-and-inbox-delivery-at-aol/" target="_blank">AOL&#8217;s postmaster talks about IP reputation and undeliverables </a>here. ReturnPath, the experts on email deliverability, <a href="http://www.returnpath.net/blog/2008/11/why-your-email-wont-get-delive.php">mentions undeliverables here</a> and offers some tips. Laura Atkins from <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2008/08/letting-go/">WordtotheWise</a> talks about &#8220;<a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2008/08/letting-go/">Letting Go</a>&#8221; of old members.</p>
<p>In general, there&#8217;s a shift (again) in the way ISPs and email receivers judge emails as spam or not. Instead of relying on blacklists or focusing on bad content, they&#8217;re looking at your overall reputation as a sender. And list cleanliness (undeliverables, hard bounces, spam complaints) are huge factors in determining how clean your list is.</p>
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		<title>Spam Complaints &#8211; Your Own Focus Group</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Abuse Desk Stories]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s an interesting post over at the Word To The Wise blog about the &#8220;Report Spam&#8221; button.
Apparently, some marketing folks (Q Interactive and MarketingSherpa) ran a survey that suggests the button is meaningless now.  That&#8217;s because too many people click &#8220;Report Spam&#8221; when all they really want to do is unsubscribe.
This statement from Laura [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an interesting post over at the <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/index.php/2008/03/25/report-spam-button-broken/">Word To The Wise blog about the &#8220;Report Spam&#8221; button</a>.</p>
<p>Apparently, some marketing folks (<a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080325/aqtu007.html?.v=43" title="Report Spam Button Broken According to Consumer Email Survey From Q Interactive and MarketingSherpa" target="_blank">Q Interactive and MarketingSherpa</a>) ran a survey that suggests the button is meaningless now.  That&#8217;s because too many people click &#8220;Report Spam&#8221; when all they really want to do is unsubscribe.</p>
<p>This statement from Laura Atkins is what I found most interesting (which I&#8217;ve summarized in a very unprofessional way below):</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I think this is a demonstration of the<strong> disconnect</strong> between traditional marketing (telemarketing and direct mail especially) and email marketing. In traditional marketing&#8230;recipients do not have an easy way to send negative feedback&#8230;In email marketing, however&#8230;they have a way to communicate back to the marketer that they do not have in other forms of marketing.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely a <strong>&#8220;disconnect.&#8221;</strong> Enlightened marketers know how to treat email. Ignorant markters who just treat email as &#8220;cheap direct marketing&#8221; are ruining email for all of us, and need to have their computers taken away from them.</p>
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<p>As co-founder and abuse desk admin at MailChimp, I see this disconnect <em>all the time</em> from old school traditional marketers. Whenever I have to investigate a user&#8217;s account for too many spam complaints (generally, more than 1 per thousand recipients) or way too many bounces, I hover my finger over to the &#8220;<strong>SHUT ACCOUNT DOWN</strong>&#8221; button whenever I hear the following &#8220;traditional marketing&#8221; excuses:</p>
<ul>
<li>Dude, I get tons of junk mail in my mailbox every day. What&#8217;s the difference with emai (click)</li>
<li>Oh c&#8217;mon,  everybody knows when they drop their business card into a fishbowl they&#8217;re gonna get (click)</li>
<li>Perfectly legit list, man. We got it from the local Chamber of Comm&#8212; (click)</li>
<li>But I bought that list from a really expensi&#8212; (click click click click)</li>
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<p>All of the above are great ways to send traditional, offline marketing. But not mass email. Ignorant marketers just don&#8217;t get that. But this is a no-brainer for marketers who actually have a clue about email.</p>
<p><strong>Remove Tin Foil Hat. Step Away From The Computer.</strong></p>
<p>Even the best email marketers get 1 or 2 abuse complaints (and that&#8217;s why ISPs have pretty reasonable thresholds). But good marketers look at those complaints as &#8220;feedback&#8221; (by the way, ISPs use the term &#8220;<a href="http://directmag.com/disciplines/email/feedback_loops_0311/" title="Obsessed with Open Rates? Stop it; Focus on Feedback Loops" target="_blank">Feedback Loops</a>&#8221; when they refer to those report spam buttons).</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s some kind of conspiracy to get their companies blacklisted, and they don&#8217;t think the ISPs and spamcops are &#8220;out to get them.&#8221; Trust me, they probably don&#8217;t even know you exist. If one of your campaigns suddenly gets a lot of complaints, this is great user feedback that something&#8217;s wrong with your marketing. Don&#8217;t you wish you could get that kind of instant feedback from traditional direct marketing?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re getting too many feedback loop complaints, don&#8217;t cry about it and demand that ISPs change their ways. Take a long hard look at your email marketing opt-in process. You&#8217;re probably sending too much email, or unexpected email, or you&#8217;re not managing your lists properly,  or some combination of the above.</p>
<p>Related:</p>
<p><a href="http://directmag.com/disciplines/email/feedback_loops_0311/" title="Obsessed with Open Rates? Stop it; Focus on Feedback Loops" target="_blank">Obsessed with Open Rates? Stop it; Focus on Feedback Loops </a></p>
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