Comments on: Email Marketing Mistake: The Old Address Book Dump http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/ MailChimp, email marketing, and monkeys! Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:25:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ben http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-4733 Ben Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:38:48 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-4733 Hi Rob, the issue isn't as bad as you think. If there is a business owner out there, and you want to send a one-to-one, personal email to him/her about your product, that's not spam. But if you try to do that <b>en masse,</b> it's spam. It gets worse when people try to do it en masse by using bots and spiders to "scrape" emails from the internet. That's a special breed of spam I personally call "evil." Hi Rob, the issue isn’t as bad as you think. If there is a business owner out there, and you want to send a one-to-one, personal email to him/her about your product, that’s not spam. But if you try to do that en masse, it’s spam. It gets worse when people try to do it en masse by using bots and spiders to “scrape” emails from the internet. That’s a special breed of spam I personally call “evil.”

]]> By: Rob McCarthy http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-4724 Rob McCarthy Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:02:10 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-4724 I'm wanting to use MailChimp to improve my marketing as my business is now expanding to rowers world wide. My website seems to get many hits almost all from servers. What's going on. I seems strange that most Rowing Clubs have at least one email contact there to be used, not abused. According the the Terms & Conditions a prospect can not be emailed as I could be reported as a spammer. All I'm wanting to do is make initial contact to inform and promote my products and hopefully gain subscription approval [optin] for future newsletter and business On the internet, websites and email addresses are so abundant, do the owners want to be contacted with legitimate correspondence or do we refrain from all attempts to make contact in fear of being accused ,a spammer What are ISPs, really doing to physically find these spammers? Too much spam is getting through. What are we paying for? Tracking software is free and readily available to us. My point is, why are we threatened with blacklisting and denied the use of email marketing etc when attempting to operate a genuine business. Confused Rob I’m wanting to use MailChimp to improve my marketing as my business is now expanding to rowers world wide. My website seems to get many hits almost all from servers.
What’s going on.

I seems strange that most Rowing Clubs have at least one email contact there to be used, not abused. According the the Terms & Conditions a prospect can not be emailed as I could be reported as a spammer. All I’m wanting to do is make initial contact to inform and promote my products and hopefully gain subscription approval [optin] for future newsletter and business

On the internet, websites and email addresses are so abundant, do the owners want to be contacted with legitimate correspondence or do we refrain from all attempts to make contact in fear of being accused ,a spammer
What are ISPs, really doing to physically find these spammers? Too much spam is getting through.
What are we paying for?
Tracking software is free and readily available to us.

My point is, why are we threatened with blacklisting and denied the use of email marketing etc when attempting to operate a genuine business.

Confused
Rob

]]> By: Comcast Delivery Tips | MailChimp Blog http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-1893 Comcast Delivery Tips | MailChimp Blog Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:41:30 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-1893 [...] your entire email address book and assume they all want to receive email newsletters from you. Address book dumps are full of old email addresses, and are one of the most common reasons I see senders get blocked. [...] [...] your entire email address book and assume they all want to receive email newsletters from you. Address book dumps are full of old email addresses, and are one of the most common reasons I see senders get blocked. [...]

]]> By: Ben http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-470 Ben Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:02:48 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-470 @Tom: Great feedback, Tom. In general, the major ISPs already work the way you think things should work. The "threshold" to get blacklisted for user-reported complaints is reasonably high. In the story above, the complainer wasn't using the "report spam" button, or any blacklisting system. He called me. And he happened to run an ISP, so had the power to block our servers from reaching thousands of recipients in that city. It's scary to think that one person holds that kind of blocking power, but keep in mind he called us to investigate first. And that's the case with all ISPs I've ever dealt with. So long as you're sending emails people requested, and you do your very best to minimize "surprises," you will never have to worry about exceeding any blacklist complaint thresholds. @Tom:

Great feedback, Tom. In general, the major ISPs already work the way you think things should work. The “threshold” to get blacklisted for user-reported complaints is reasonably high.

In the story above, the complainer wasn’t using the “report spam” button, or any blacklisting system. He called me. And he happened to run an ISP, so had the power to block our servers from reaching thousands of recipients in that city.

It’s scary to think that one person holds that kind of blocking power, but keep in mind he called us to investigate first. And that’s the case with all ISPs I’ve ever dealt with.

So long as you’re sending emails people requested, and you do your very best to minimize “surprises,” you will never have to worry about exceeding any blacklist complaint thresholds.

]]> By: Tom Lehman http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-468 Tom Lehman Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-468 I think it is profoundly stupid and unproductive to have a system in place that enables some individual recipient of an email to trigger an entry into a spam list. I get responses back from individuals with some frequency who have forgotten that they signed up ... not a check box .. signed up to receive a periodic newsletter. In my view, the power wielded by organizations operating blacklists clearly does not provide due process and borders on illegal restraint of trade. Putting a sender on the list as a result of multiple reports of spam ... and the bar should be high for automatic inclusion .. is a lot different than giving that power to one or two disgruntled people. A very significant proportion of the spam problem involves thousands or millions of emails and at least hundreds of complaints. It certainly isn't caused by a beauty salon sending out 25 emails no matter what the origin. I think it is profoundly stupid and unproductive to have a system in place that enables some individual recipient of an email to trigger an entry into a spam list. I get responses back from individuals with some frequency who have forgotten that they signed up … not a check box .. signed up to receive a periodic newsletter. In my view, the power wielded by organizations operating blacklists clearly does not provide due process and borders on illegal restraint of trade. Putting a sender on the list as a result of multiple reports of spam … and the bar should be high for automatic inclusion .. is a lot different than giving that power to one or two disgruntled people. A very significant proportion of the spam problem involves thousands or millions of emails and at least hundreds of complaints. It certainly isn’t caused by a beauty salon sending out 25 emails no matter what the origin.

]]> By: The right way to export contacts from your Outlook Address Book for email marketing | MailChimp Blog http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/comment-page-1/#comment-269 The right way to export contacts from your Outlook Address Book for email marketing | MailChimp Blog Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:06:51 +0000 http://www.mailchimp.com/blog/2007/06/05/email-marketing-mistake-the-old-address-book-dump/#comment-269 [...] Here’s a real life example of this happening to a MailChimp customer. [...] [...] Here’s a real life example of this happening to a MailChimp customer. [...]

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